[-empyre-] re: K+M and COLLISION SINGS

[barrie <adhocgraphics@bigpond.com>]

> K+M wrote
>>> memory is one string, both embodied and disembodied memories,
>>> as unreliable as bodies and words.

memory is a web, a web, and its constantly lacing up to new bits of web and
dropping others ...
>> 
>> .........how do we feel about attribution of ownership in regards 2
>> mem(e)ories?........
> 
> 
> i also think there is an energetic line that binds them..  a sticky virtual
> protein string,  maybe its somehow enmeshed in the electrical energetic
> bursts  thata make my computer screen and the web happen... also i truely
> believe i have gene memories.. memories and familiaraties that have nothing
> to do with my conscious lived experience on or offline.. (um and i DONT mean
> new age past-lives..i mean memory that is physically encoded)

gene memory, yes, I agree - didn't someone in recent years (New Scientist?)
propose that there are some memories that are passed on from generation to
generation, what kinds of memories I don't know -  perhaps behaviors,
language abilities, musical 'gifts' ... maybe these gene memories are only
expressed 2 generations apart like some 'physical' abilities, maybe arising
from the will of the parents or grandparents, the will creating a potential
that is expressed in the children?

Memory - system of associations, more than text or language content, vision,
sound, smell, location of body position of limbs and more than this a kind
of humming, vibrating constantly changing holistic ocean of associations ...

> so im wondering about memory that is physically encoded in web
> personalities..?
> our memory of them their memories of themselves..

W Grey Walter described the brain as an enchanted loom - which pretty much
describes the WWW, the net is a very sense deprived entity though, perhaps
when a large number of sensory inputs are linked in, audio, visual,
olfactory - you might get a simple mind construct evolving, a kind of
electronic protoplasm, poke it and it quivers.
> 
> ....i find watching pre-parkinson's footage of michael j fox so
>> fascinating, as u realise that those idiosyncratic body-gestures may not b
>> so idiosyncratic after all, but precursors of the onset of a condition
> that
>> is basically physical identity-notation|body language parsing gone
> awry.....
> 
> 
> yes i sat with a great aunt after a stroke and she made the most amazing
> poetic dada surreal sentance constructions.. like you could really see/hear
> the  hardwire errors of consciouss commiunication at work building another
> langauage which made complete sense to her but no one else untill you
> stsrted to decode it..
> 
My mother is 96 (I'm 60) and she remembers her life very well, remembers her
children, husband, the sounds of our voices etc but her short term memory
has buggered off a bit, sort of distressing for us but 'she' is still there,
love is strong ...
> 
> .> >finally I find a thread in the banter that connects this person/text to
> me.
>>> reading academic papers made up of a patchwork of quotations
>>> I wonder 'who is actually talking here?'.
> 
> yeah but we are all just amalgums each time we speak anyway.. the
> referenceing thing just make sit more formal.. nothing ive written here is
> original..its all just rehashed thoughts and texts from someone else that
> i've consumed  over time and regurgitated in my own mix..
> i keep getting back to the idea that nothing is original ..there is no
> newness in the world.. just recycling of finite parts..
> 
> melinda
> 
no newness in the world ... change is constant, all things in a general
sense recycle, regenerate themselves, like Joni says - we are stardust. On a
personal level what we make is uniquely ours, a unique mix. When I think of
Louise Borgiouse and the way she has explained her life it is totally unique
to me, to her even though it may be reminiscent of aspects of work by other
artists, and maybe all this work ends up in spiderwebs and dust but what
really matters is what we're eating right now, what's real right now

Barrie

PS Sometimes with this list is like Joyce's Finnegans Wake - wonderful
wallowing in words, a kind of soup of ideas, can of worms, cats amongst the
pigeons, like totally, like so bitchin ...
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